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Âåòåð: Íå Óêðàèíå íóæíà Åâðîïà, à Åâðîïåéñêîìó Ñîþçó íóæíà Óêðàèíà, çàâåðèë ýêñ-ïðåçèäåíò Ïîëüøè Àëåêñàíäð Êâàñüíåâñêèé. «Ïîñëå âûáîðîâ åñòü øàíñ èäòè âïåðåä. Óêðàèíå íå íóæíà Åâðîïà, à Åâðîïå íóæíà Óêðàèíà. Ñåãîäíÿ ñèòóàöèÿ â Óêðàèíå íå õóæå, ÷åì â ýòèõ ñòðàíàõ (êàíäèäàòàõ íà ÷ëåíñòâî â ÅÑ), à â íåêîòîðîé ñòåïåíè äàæå ëó÷øå. Ýòî (åâðîïåéñêàÿ ïåðñïåêòèâà) äàñò Óêðàèíå áîëüøå øàíñîâ ñëåäîâàòü äåìîêðàòè÷åñêèì ñòàíäàðòàì, åñëè ÅÑ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ãëàâíîé äâèæóùåé ñèëîé ïðîäâèæåíèÿ òàêèõ ñòàíäàðòîâ», — çàÿâèë îí. http://nezalezhna-ukraina.com/evrope-nuzhna-ukraina/#more-409
Nell: Ãëàçüåâ ïèøåò: Ïîïûòêà îáúÿâèòü î ñàíêöèÿõ ïðîòèâ ÐÔ îáåðíåòñÿ êðàõîì äëÿ ôèíàíñîâîé ñèñòåìû ÑØÀ Íà ïðåññ-êîíôåðåíöèè Ïóòèí ñêàçàë ïðàêòè÷åñêè òî æå ñàìîå: æåëàþùèì ââåñòè ñàíêöèè ïðîòèâ ÐÔ îí ðåêîìåíäîâàë ïîäóìàòü î ïîñëåäñòâèÿõ ïðåæäå âñåãî äëÿ ñâîèõ æå ñòðàí.
Ñëóæèâûé: Ïðîñòî òàê Âû áû åùå íà "Ýõî Ìîñêâû" ñîñëàëèñü
Õîëîï: Ñëóæèâûé ïèøåò: Âû áû åùå íà "Ýõî Ìîñêâû" ñîñëàëèñü Ñòèñíÿþñü ñïðîñèòü òîâàðèù ñëóãà.... À íà êàêèå ÑÌÈ ïðèêàçàíî ññûëàòüñÿ ?
Paul: Ãëàçüåâ ñðàâíèë äâå íå ñðàâíèâàåìûå âåùè. Ýêîíîìèêå Ðîññèè äàëåêî äî ýêîíîìèêè ÑØÀ êàê â ôèíàíñîâîì ìàñøòàáå.... òàê è â îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèõ âåùàõ.....Íå ñìåøèòå ìåíÿ....
Paul: Ïîêà â ìèðå ïðàâèò äîëëàð, à íå ðóáëü...
Paul: Õîòÿ, ÿ ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî Êðûì ýòî èñêîííî ðóññêàÿ òåððèòîðèÿ...
ogranschik: Paul ïèøåò: Ýêîíîìèêå Ðîññèè äàëåêî äî ýêîíîìèêè ÑØÀ êàê â ôèíàíñîâîì ìàñøòàáå.... òàê è â îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèõ âåùàõ.....Íå ñìåøèòå ìåíÿ.... Âåðíî,Paul... Èáî ýêîíîìèêà ÑØÀ çà ïîñëåäíèå 25 ëåò ðåçêî èçìåíèëà ñâîþ ñòðóêòóðó.  íåé ñòàë ïðåîáëàäàòü ôèíàíñîâûé ñåêòîð.À ïî áîëüøîìó ñ÷¸òó ôèíàíñîâûå ñïåêóëÿöèè.Áûëè ââåäåíû â îáîðîò íîâûå èíñòðóìåíòû: låðèâàòèâû,ôëîïû è ïðî÷àÿ õðåíü,íèêàêîãî îòíîøåíèå ê ðåàëüíîìó ñåêòîðó íå èìåþùàÿ?äà è ïðîèçâîäñòâî èç ñàìîé Àìåðèêè ñòàëî ïåðåìåùàòüñÿ çà ðóáåæ,íàïðèìåð, â Êèòàé... Òî åñòü,ýêîíîìèêà ÑØÀ,íàêà÷àííàÿ ôèêòèâíûì,ñïåêóëÿòèâíûì êàïèòàëîì? åñòü äóòûé ïóçûðü, ïî áîëüøîìó ñ÷¸òó...,õîòü è èñ÷èñëÿåìûé òðèëëèîíàìè... Îíà äåðæèòñÿ òîëüêî íà ÔÐÑ- íà ìîíîïîëüíîì ïå÷àòàíèè ìèðîâîé âàëþòû-äîëëàðå
ogranschik: Êòî åñòü êòî(Þ.Ìóõèí î ãàëè÷àíàõ è ìàëîðîññàõ) Óêðàèíà, êàê è Ðîññèÿ, óæå äàâíî â îãíå âîéíû – âîéíû èíôîðìàöèîííîé, à íà Óêðàèíå îíà ñåãîäíÿ îñîáåííî âèäíà - àðìèè æóðíàëèñòîâ-êîëëàáîðàöèîíèñòîâ ïðåññóþò è ïðåññóþò óêðàèíöåâ îãíåì ëæè. È â ýòîé âîéíå ñíàðÿäàìè ÿâëÿþòñÿ ñëîâà. Ïîýòîìó â âîïðîñå Óêðàèíû ñòîèò óòî÷íèòü êîå-êàêèå ïîíÿòèÿ. Óêðàèíöû è ãàëèöèéöû Ãëàâíûå äåéñòâóþùèå ëèöà íûíåøíèõ ñîáûòèé â Êèåâå íàçûâàþò ñåáÿ óêðàèíöàìè. Äà, ýòè ëþäè æèâóò â ïðåäåëàõ ãîñóäàðñòâà, èìåþùåãî íàçâàíèå Óêðàèíà, íî òîãäà êòî òå ëþäè, êòî èñïîêîí âåêîâ æèë ïî ïðàâîìó è ëåâîìó áåðåãó Äíåïðà, ÷üè êîðíè óõîäÿò ê êàçàêàì Çàïîðîæñêîé Ñå÷è, à íå ê æèòåëÿì Ãàáñáóðãñêîé ìîíàðõèè? Ìàëîðîññû? Âèäèòå ëè, êîãäà ÿ âèæó ìàðøèðóþùóþ ïî Êèåâó óäàðíóþ ñèëó Ìàéäàíà, ñêàíäèðóþùóþ: «Áàíäåðà, Øóøêåâè÷ – ãåðîè Óêðàèíû!», - ó ìåíÿ âîçíèêàåò îòòîðæåíèå, ïîñêîëüêó Áàíäåðà è Øóøêåâè÷ íèêîãäà íå áûëè ãåðîÿìè óêðàèíöåâ – òåõ óêðàèíöåâ, êîòîðûå ìàëîðîññû. Äëÿ ìàëîðîññîâ Áàíäåðà è Øóøêåâè÷ òàêèå æå ãåðîè, êàê è Ãèòëåð ñ Ìóññîëèíè. Äà, in vitro, Áàíäåðà è Øóøêåâè÷ èìåþò ïðàâî áûòü ãåðîÿìè òî÷íî òàê æå, êàê ãåðîÿìè èìåþò ïðàâî áûòü Ãèòëåð è Ìóññîëèíè, íî Áàíäåðà è Øóøêåâè÷ ýòî ãåðîè òîëüêî Ãàëèöèè è æèòåëåé ýòîãî ðåãèîíà – ãàëèöèéöåâ, ïîïàâøèõ â Óêðàèíó òîëüêî â 1940 ãîäó. Êñòàòè, íåìöû ýòî ïðåêðàñíî ïîíèìàëè, è ñîçäàííóþ èìè èç ãàëèöèéöåâ äèâèçèþ ÑÑ íàçâàëè íå «Óêðàèíà», à «Ãàëèöèÿ». Äà, ãàëèöèéöû è â Ãàáñáóðãñêîé ìîíàðõèè, è â Àâñòðèéñêîé èìïåðèè ðàçãîâàðèâàëè íà ÿçûêå, ïî ñâîåé ñòðóêòóðå è íåêîòîðûì ñëîâàì, âåñüìà ïîõîæèì íà ìàëîðîññèéñêèé, íî ðàçâå ýòî îïðåäåëèëî îáùåå ìèðîâîççðåíèå? Ê ïðèìåðó, â ìåíòàëèòåòå ãàëèöèéöà âïîëíå äîïóñòèìî óáèòü æåíó è äåòåé òåõ, êîãî îíè õîòÿò ñåáå ïîä÷èíèòü. Íî â ìèðîâîççðåíèè óêðàèíöà òàêîãî íèêîãäà íå áûëî! È ÷òîáû ïîíÿòü, ïî÷åìó Óêðàèíà ñåãîäíÿ òàê ðåçêî ðàçäåëèëàñü, ýòó ðàçíèöó íàðîäîâ Óêðàèíû íóæíî ïîíèìàòü. ×òîáû ïîíÿòü, ïî÷åìó îäíà ÷àñòü óêðàèíöåâ òàê òóïî è óïîðíî íàâÿçûâàåò äðóãîé ÷àñòè óêðàèíöåâ ñâîé ÿçûê, è íà ýòîì íèê÷åìíîì âîïðîñå ðàñêàëûâàåò ñòðàíó, íàäî ïîíÿòü, ÷òî ýòî ðàçíûå íàðîäû, è äëÿ ãàëèöèéöåâ ìàëîðîññû – íèêòî! «Òèòóøêè». Ýòî òå, êòî îáÿçàí èì, ãàëèöèéöàì, ïîä÷èíÿòüñÿ. Èì áû, ãàëèöèéöàì, îáðàçîâàòü íà Óêðàèíå ñâîþ àâòîíîìíóþ ðåñïóáëèêó Ãàëèöèÿ, ðàç óæ èì õî÷åòñÿ áûòü óêðàèíöàìè, íî îíè ïðåäïî÷èòàþò äèêòîâàòü ñâîþ âîëþ âñåé Óêðàèíå. Êàêèìè áû íè áûëè ìàëîðîññû ðàçîáùåííûìè è ïîñåìó íåðåøèòåëüíûìè, íî â ïåðñïåêòèâå ê ÷åìó ïîäîáíîå íàñèëèå íàä íèìè äîëæíî ïðèâåñòè? Ïîýòîìó ìîæíî ëè ñ÷èòàòü êîððåêòíûì ëîçóíã «Ðóêè ïðî÷ü îò Óêðàèíû!»? Íåò, âû óæ ãîâîðèòå íå ñòåñíÿÿñü: «Ðóêè ïðî÷ü îò ãàëèöèéöåâ íà Óêðàèíå!», - òàê áóäåò òî÷íî, òàê áóäåò êîððåêòíî. Ïîñêîëüêó íà ìàëîðîññîâ è ðóññêèõ íà Óêðàèíå ðóêè íèêòî íå íàêëàäûâàë. Êðîìå ãàëèöèéöåâ. http://forum-msk.org/material/power/10262919.html
ìàýñòðî: Paul ïèøåò: Íå ñìåøèòå ìåíÿ.... Ïîäîçðåâàþ, ÷òî Àìåðèêå íå äî ñìåõà.... ogranschik ïèøåò: ýêîíîìèêà ÑØÀ,íàêà÷àííàÿ ôèêòèâíûì,ñïåêóëÿòèâíûì êàïèòàëîì? åñòü äóòûé ïóçûðü, Ïîëíîñòüþ ñîãëàñåí.
ìàýñòðî: Paul ïèøåò: Ïîêà â ìèðå ïðàâèò äîëëàð, à íå ðóáëü... Âîïðîñ â òîì, êòî ïðàâèò äîëëàðîì?
ogranschik: Î áóäóùåì Óêðàèíû.. http://www.softmixer.com/2014/03/blog-post_1980.html#more
boom: ogranschik ïèøåò: íîâûå èíñòðóìåíòû: låðèâàòèâû,ôëîïû Ïðåçåðâàòèâû?
Ãîñòü: çàáàâíåíüêî, íî ñòðàøíåíüêî. Õîòÿ èíôà, ïîäîáíàÿ ýòîé óæå áûëà è â äðóãèõ èñòî÷íèêàõ http://ermalex76.livejournal.com/21393.html
...äàâøèé: Ãîñòü âñ¸ ýòî âûçûâàåò ïå÷àëü, íî èíôà., êàê ÿ òåïåðü ïîíèìàþ, íå áåñïî÷âåííà. Ó çíàêîìûõ â Óêðàèíå "ñûíèøêà" ïîëó÷èë òóìàêîâ, ÷òî ïðèøëîñü îáðàùàòüñÿ â êëèíèêó. Ïðè âûïèñûâàíèè èç ñòàöèîíàðà, âðà÷ çàäàë âîïðîñ ðîäèòåëþ:- äàâíî ëè áàëóåòñÿ ðåáåíîê íàðêîòèêàìè? Ðîäèòåëü áûë â øîêå! Ïðè ó÷èí¸ííîì äîïðîñå , "ðåá¸íî÷åê" è ñàì ïðèø¸ë â çàìåøàòåëüñòâî. Ïîñëåäíèå äíè (äî êëèíèêè) ïèë è åë íà ìàéäàíå. Òåïåðü ïðèõîäèòñÿ äóìàòü.
image: Äðóçüÿ Àìåðèêè.
Paul: Ëüâîâùèíà - íå ðóññêàÿ òåððèòîðèÿ...è íèêîãäà íå áóäåò åþ... Íî áóäåì ñïðàâåäëèâû, Êðûì âñåãäà áûë ðîññèéñêèì è îí ïðèíàäëåæèò èì....
Ñëóæèâûé: Î ñëàâå "ãåðîåâ" íîâîé âëàñòè â "ëåãèòèìíîé" è "íåçàëåæíîé".
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